BARE Face Podcast

You are causing your own acne by using the wrong product. Why am I still breaking out as an adult? A lot of people are buying 10 products on TikTok because they think that, you know, this influencer is using this and this and this and they're actually making it worse. You cannot get a diagnosis on how to treat your skin watching a podcast or listening to somebody on the Internet. There's no licensing for it. You can print off a certification. What would you not do to treat that? A lady came in. She had been going to other med spas and getting IPLs. We were gonna be doing like her sixth or seventh treatment and we were like immediately, no, we're not doing this treatment on you. She very clearly had melasma. An IPL will make melasma far worse. So melasma is not something we will ever get rid of. We are just going to be treating it for the rest of your life. So to answer your question, what are we doing to get rid of it? Alright, guys. Welcome back to the podcast. This is episode number three, and today we're doing something a little bit different. So we googled the most questions asked this month, around skin care, med spa services, just kind of all things beauty. So that's what we're gonna go over today. It's just those top googled questions And we're of the month. We're answering them. So no fluff, no vague answers. We're just gonna go through all those and answer them the best we can. Yeah. Let's go for it. Okay. Awesome. Alright. And if you ever had a question you're too afraid to ask, this is for you. So I'm gonna ask the first question. You ready? Yeah. Question one. Why am I still breaking out as an adult? Okay. So acne is very complex, which is why it's so hard to treat. So as an adult, if you're still suffering from acne, the first things I'm going to ask you as a technician when you come in is, have you done a food journal? Have you tracked what you're eating and when you're breaking out after eating certain foods? If there's any hormonal changes in your daily routine. So if you just got put on a new birth control or started taking testosterone or any kind of new medications added in to, your routine. And then I'm also going to go over what you're currently using at home, and if you tend to lean more towards TikTok products, or if you're actually under the supervision of maybe a dermatologist, or kind of what's going on in your daily routine. So most of the time as an adult, there's something either internally going on with our bodies and it's causing this inflammatory reaction and it's resulting in acne for you, or you are causing your own acne by using the wrong product. So we're always going to start with that. I would recommend everybody who is suffering with acne as an adult, if there's been no changes medically speaking, start a food journal immediately. And I will promise you within a few days of doing that, you're going to notice that certain foods cause some type of inflammatory response. So if it's an eczema breakout or acne or something like that, it's usually caused by some of the foods that we eat the most, which are taste the best. Isn't dairy a big one or is that Dairy and gluten tend to be a really big factor in most people, having especially that acne that kinda comes and goes. Now, obviously, for women, it's gonna maybe follow your cycle, and then obviously, we're gonna talk about a few different things like that. So you may just be experiencing hormonal breakouts, which kind of come and go through the month. But if you're having consistent cystic acne, there's something internally going on that we need to find the cause. Yeah. And then a lot of people are buying 10 products on TikTok because they think that, you know, this influencer is using this and this and this, and they're actually making it worse. Yes. So we find those. We find the food thing. Simplify and move from there. Question two. You ready? Yep. Alright, what is better, microneedling or chemical peels? Oh, okay, so I love both. It really depends on what we're wanting to treat. So, do you wanna be more specific or just I can answer broadly? What's the most common thing that you would use a chemical peel or microneedle for? And then go off of that one. Yeah. So microneedling is going to be a way more corrective long term treatment. So if we're talking about anti aging, acne scars, acne itself, pigment, think of microneedling as going in and kind of restarting the skin. So microneedling is really going to help with all of your textural issues and aging. It's going to build more collagen, it's going to help smooth out the texture of your skin, help with any wrinkles, scarring, that kind of stuff. Chemical peels are amazing. They're great maintenance treatments. If you need an alternative, let's say it's a month where you can't be, you know, healing from a treatment, micro or sorry, chemical peels are going to be a great option for that. And they're definitely something that you can do long term. So you can do a peel a month for the rest of your life and get amazing results from it. However, if you were to do a microneedling treatment every month for the rest of your life, you're wasting your money. So it just kinda depends on what we're wanting to treat. But your your peels are going to make a huge result in your skin if you are consistent with them. If you're getting three peels a year, kind of a waste of time. If you're getting three microneedlings a year, it's amazing. You're gonna have huge antiaging results from that. Okay. Yeah. Perfect. Alright. Question three. This is your last one. Ready? So melasma is huge. We see a lot of that come in. It is hormonally induced hyperpigmentation. It's not from the sun. So what would you do to treat that? What would you not do to treat that? Okay. So melasma, first of all, go to somebody who understands what melasma is because actually this happened to us a couple days ago. A lady came in. She was there for what was she there for? IPL. And she it was her first time to us. However, she had been going to other med spas and getting IPLs. I think we were gonna be doing, like, her sixth or seventh treatment that she has ever had, and we were, like, immediately, no. We're not doing this treatment on you. I mean, just speaking to her, we didn't have to put her in the consultation room and do a skin analysis to see if she very clearly had melasma. An IPL will make melasma far worse. Melasma is not something we will ever get rid of. We are just going to be treating it for the rest of your life. If you have melasma, you are born with it, although it may not surface right away. So to answer your question, what are we doing to get rid of it? Nothing. But we are going to treat it with a series of maybe chemical peels and microneedlings, some different treatments to kinda like calm down the pigment. But more importantly, what we're doing is sending you home on a really good skincare routine and making sure that you're treating that melasma every day because I can only touch your face when you come in. However, you can touch your face every day and so what you're doing at home is going to make a huge difference with how your melasma looks. And just know it will ebb and flow. You will have what I kind of call flare ups, So you're going to have this pigment rise to the surface when you're out in the sun, and then it'll calm down over the next few days. Or you go on a trip, and your melasma gets worse, and then it'll, you know, you come in, we'll do a peel or something like that, we'll calm it down, and then we'll move on. Okay. So at home care is a big one. I have melasma as well. So I think, what, ten percent of men actually have it. I've had it for as long as I can remember, but the at home care is really what took care of it. I still have flare ups. Yeah. But again, they're gone in a day or two days, as opposed to being there all summer like it used to be, and then I'd have to go back and treat it again. Right. So yeah, it's just something you live with, and you keep it suppressed, so. Yep. Yep. Melasma's with you for life. So I always told my melasma clients we're about ready to be best friends. So just know that it is a journey together and there's no quick fix for it. Alright. We have some permanent makeup questions for you. Do permanent eyebrows look fake? That was like the most googled question about permanent makeup. They can. So your permanent eyebrows can look super fake. It's really down to the artist that you choose Mhmm. And looking at their portfolio. So I I don't have it as often, but I have a lot of clients that come in still and say, don't want these big overdone brows. Why are the brows gray, solid? Why do they look fake? They don't want brows like their grandma was getting. Correct. So there was an old style of doing it where the industry had to catch up, the manufacturers had to catch up, the techniques had to catch up to where before it was just you were using tattoo equipment, and that's all you had access to. So the needles were thicker, the tapers were different, and you could only get such a fine line, and the understanding of permanent, like, cosmetic And ink was different. The difference between cosmetic ink now is vastly different. Yeah. All that stuff, ten, twenty years ago, we were just figuring it out and doing the best we could. So we now, I mean, nano brows, microblading have really taken the place. Now microblading is temporary, supposed to be, if it's done right, whereas doing nano brows looks very natural. So we have some really nice There's we so implant hair strokes, different shades, different colors, and make it look a little bit more three d. So there's so many options to customize. When I go through it, I show my portfolio of of all these different shapes and styles that are custom to that client, and then we build something off of that. Whereas before, it's just you got a shape. That was about it. And I think something that you do different that not everybody in the industry does, just from my observations of when you're doing your treatments. You always have them sitting up when you're drawing them on. You never use a stencil, and you're making sure that they're talking to you the whole time. So you're really watching how that shape kind of moves on their face. I know, like, with my mom, when you were doing hers, my mom's, like, very expressionative, and big eyes, and brows up, and, like, obviously, if you were to put, like, a a big arch on her, she would look crazy when she started talking, but it you wouldn't know that if she was just laying there, laying down, and you just drew them on really quick and tattooed them on, and then they start speaking. So is there any That's what I say, like, trainings, you're gonna work on a flat piece of paper. They're gonna show you how to map and draw and do it all on a flat, perfect symmetry, eyes are perfect, there's no movement. You're not gonna work on that when you work on a human. They're moving all the time, there's Botox involved sometimes, and where their brow bone in is their brow bone's usually the place you want to stay, but they might be extremely, you know, high on this side, one eye is lower than the other. You have to look at all those things. Right. So that's why we set them up, draw them on, and then natural was the question. So yes, they can look amazingly natural. Choose your artist Yeah. That can do that. Yeah. I think so many treatments that we I find myself saying this a lot, like, this isn't your grandma's fill in the blank. Like, it's not your grandma's chemical peels. These aren't your grandma's c o two resurfacing, like, or brows. There's so many advancements that the stigma is still there. People remember hearing about these treatments, but that's just not the way they're done anymore, and permanent makeup is a huge one. Right? Because we've all seen the little old lady at the grocery store pushing around her cart, and she has her purple eyebrows, and you're like, oh, I'm never doing that. And it's like, well, that's just not how they're done anymore. So Yeah. But kind of segue into that would also be c o twos, the way c o twos used to be done before and are still performed, obviously, but everybody has this really crazy idea of what a CO two resurfacing is. So most Googled question was, does laser resurfacing actually work? Yes. And why? Laser two CO two resurfacing is my favorite. It does almost everything. You can customize for wrinkles, pigment, texture, tone, whatever it is you're working on, you can Patternity go scars. Deep scars, the tissue that's just, you never think you can do anything with it, your upper lip lines. You're working that and customizing every treatment for every small area of the face. So you're tightening eyelids, you're working on this nasolabial fold, wrinkle, you're working on the forehead, much thinner skin than the cheeks, and you're customizing every treatment the whole way for depth, tightening, coagulation. I mean, you don't have to get into the science, it's just the best anti aging laser that I've ever seen. Yeah. They used to do them fully ablative. They still do that, but that's when you saw the the road rash. It looked like they would burn victims. Mhmm. Now they do it fractionally. So we do fractionally. We do couple of them as opposed to just one big one, which allows us more customization because I can see how you come back healed, and then we can work on other things a little bit differently because of it, trying to get you as far back into your youth as we can and create more health in that skin remodeling. Yeah. So it's absolutely, it works, it's worth it, it's amazing, I love it. And I know it's probably my algorithm, but I see so many c o twos being done now on TikTok and Instagram, it's like people documenting their results and their downtime anywhere from a mild cool peel up to, you know, a much more aggressive treatment in all ages. I mean, I think people are really starting to understand when you start doing these treatments in your thirties, the results will last so much longer. You're not gonna have to do a lot of crazy stuff the older you get, like, if you start mildly taking care of your skin now. So You mild do CO2 when you're younger Mhmm. And you're rebuilding collagen elastin, you're keeping all of that awake and repairing, and then you put a healing serum like exosomes or stem cells on top of that, and you say, oh, well, I don't need it yet. I'm not that bad off. If you do it now, you're not gonna get that bad off. Totally. So add those in. Yeah. And yes, you you get a c o two when you're 20. You just it's a lighter version where you have one day of of some crusting, that's it. Well, was gonna be the next So tell me typical downtime for most, and kind of why that is, or how okay. So let's say I come into you, and I'm like, I only have a couple of days to recover. I have an event coming up in two weeks, but I love the results of c o two. Kind of walk me through what that treatment would look like, if I don't have, you know, me specifically, my skin type or whatever. I'm not in my eighties, you know, needing more. So you're looking for more of a refresh because you've something coming up in two weeks? Yeah. Specific to CO two? Mhmm. So that would be a cool peel. It's a brand name for a treatment. It's a CO2 laser, but it's a brand name for certain settings that we use. That's the most confusing thing when people come in. It's not cool, and you don't peel. Yeah. Whoever marketed that. Call it a cool peel. So, treatment. I had one four days ago, and I'm fine. And it was fine. Everything was good. It's just taking that surface layer and remodeling it, and it's pulling the pigment. You're getting better texture. You're getting smoother skin, less imperfections in tone, and that's almost immediate. So really after the sloughing, it kinda comes off like powder, you don't even notice, and it's a couple of days and you're back to normal. You go back to your skincare routine, your serums at home, and by the time you get to that event, you're still at two weeks. I mean, you're beyond healed at that point. You're totally back to normal, but better than you were, and it's also stimulating collagen and elastin growth for the long term. Yeah. There's there's it it's such a good short term long term play when it comes to lasers. And I think that's something that people don't understand about all skin care treatments truly, but they continue to keep working. So it's not like you just got the results for your treatment or your event in two weeks from now. Mhmm. Like, that skin continues to remodel and you continue to get the results that you're hoping for and it just is the gift that keeps on giving. So Alright. Next question. Can you remove bad permanent makeup? Yes. So about half the work I do is corrective. Half the work is either they had it done years ago, twenty years ago, or they had a bad job somewhere that morning and they call me. I mean, it's just a range of everybody. It's different on how you get to the removal process. You might be a candidate for laser, you might not. You might have to use a saline to lighten. You might have to just do a color correction or shape correction with pigment instead of going a removal route. There's there's a It's just all consultation based. What am I seeing? What kind of ink was used? How deep is it? What treatment was performed? Was it permanent? Is it microblading? And once we can figure out all of those parameters, then yes, we can go in, we'll do a test shot with laser. If that works, great, we'll do a treatment. Cosmetic ink is a little different, but again, that is all in the treatment consultation process. So yes, you can remove it with laser, we also do a saline, and then we have a tattoo removal paste. It's always the last resort, but if it's something that has to be removed, we can go to the paste route, we tattoo that into the skin, and it pulls the ink out. A little harsh, but it works really well. So that's the route we would go if we had to do a full correction. Otherwise, most of the time, I can tweak some things, I can do some color correction, and we can just make them look much better without having to do anything laser related. What do you find is the biggest, you said if they had a bad job earlier that day, is that typically coming from permanent, like with an actual tattoo device? Or is that more microblading that you're getting those frantic calls? The frantic calls are primarily microblading. So I won't go into the differences between the two, but one of them uses what looks like a scalpel, and the other one uses a tattoo gun, which is a much quiet, more quiet rotary gun with nano needles now. But when you get into microblading, this can be true for most, but not everybody. It's a very easy to get into as a beginner type treatment Mhmm. Because the product cost, the cost to get into that arena As a technician. Is less than a $100 if you're buying cheap equipment, and that's usually what we end up seeing. Mhmm. Their training for it is extremely minimal. Sometimes it's just a YouTube video, And then what I hear a lot is, oh, well, my sister just started doing it. My aunt just, you know, opened up her own shop. And Or I went to the nail salon, and they just took me in the back real quick and microbladed. Those are the ones that I primarily see for correction on microblading because they go way too deep in the skin, they're not properly trained, and I would say microblading is harder to do To fix? Than Nanobrows. Harder to perform the treatment correctly because it seems easy, but you're usually making mistakes you don't even know you're making, and the client gets to suffer now for the rest of their life because you didn't perform a proper microblade treatment. Yeah. And then you just put something on their face the wrong way. And so we deal with scar tissue a lot when it comes to the improper microblading. We actually will go do micro needles and CO2s on their brows just to get the skin back to normal again. Yeah. Because they'll have little road bump, or sorry, little speed bumps. You So can run your hand across the brow, and it'll beep bump up up up up up. So those are a lot of the corrections that I see coming from microblading when it's more frantic. The other ones are just it's old, old gray ink from back in the day. Usually, one laser, it's gone. We restart the process and give them a nice new natural brow. Yeah. The biggest red flag I hear when I hear you doing consults is, you know, my aunt or whoever just got certified, and she went to school, and she's now licensed to do this. What do you tell clients when they Say go for it. Stop. I'll fix it later. No, there's no licensing for it. Right. So when you hear someone's licensed, you know, I've got all my They have they have pieces of paper, they have certifications because that There are classes. That can get trained in it. There's classes. Mine's the best. But otherwise, when you go to classes, they're they're very short. They the trainers that I've seen typically have been doing it for about a year, and now they're figure they're certified to train. But in this industry, you can print off a certification and give it to them. And they say, well, I'm certified now, let's do this. And they get all their friends and family, and then those are the people they end up fixing because they weren't really trained. It was just a one day course or a six hour course they took. They got a certification, there's no licensing, there's no board, no one's looking over your shoulder to make sure that you're doing things properly or even that you're sanitizing properly. And so that's where we do see a lot of the infections come from too. You get that infected, you get scar tissue, it's like a whole, just messy rabbit hole of stuff that can happen, and usually your technician doesn't even know that those things can happen because they haven't run into it yet. You're gonna be the one that they're gonna run into. Yeah. So Okay. If that answers your question. Yeah. Don't know. Yeah. So No permanent makeup is definitely one that we kind of hear a lot about, so Let's get that one. Go into the rapid fire if you want. Okay. I guess we're gonna edit out that part. Cool. I don't have to. It's okay. We're all just talking. Alright. Go. And my first rapid fire questions, are you ready? Yes. You gotta be quick. Okay. So are HydraFacials worth it? Yes and no. Depends on if you're if it's the right treatment plan for your specific skin condition. Okay. What age should someone start laser resurfacing? You tell me. That was my question, wasn't it? Cool. I'll answer it. It's good for all ages. You can go to cool peels when you're in your twenties. Thirties, you might get a little bit more than that, but I think you could start in your twenties and just not age. There you go. Yeah. Slow down the aging process forever. Does Does microneedling hurt? Have you had microneedling? No? No. Okay. No. Microneedling does not hurt as much as you would think. Numbing cream has come a long way. If you have a clinic that is using a really good numbing cream. It will feel like a slight tickle and honestly most people are kind of giggling because it feels like you need to sneeze when they're working around your sinuses and on your neck. It feels tickly, unless you're doing a much more aggressive treatment. But again, these aren't your grandma's microneedles anymore. They are much more comfortable. And a great numbing cream. Very good numbing cream. Okay. And then we kind of went over this earlier, but can you fix someone else's bad permanent makeup? Yes. Quick answer, yes. So I can either remove it and redo it the right way, or I can fix what's already there. That's well over fifty percent of my clientele. Okay. Next one. I have one more for you. Permanent or sorry. Is laser hair removal permanent? No. It's reduction. Laser hair removal is going to take you from having a thousand hairs in one area to 10, but it's never going to be permanent, because as long as you have hormones, you're going to grow some amount of hair, and you're going to need to keep getting maintenance treatments. Yes. I think that's one thing that I have heard for years is, oh, I went somewhere else, and they never told me this. You have to have touch ups or continuing treatments, maintenance treatments, when you are doing laser hair removal. You do not get your six, and then we'll just never see you again for life. It does not well, you might be the one percent that gets lucky, but you have to do follow-up treatments. So Yeah. And if you have white hairs, laser will not get those. Gray hairs, white hairs, red hairs, that's where electrolysis comes in and that's also what we provide is killing those hairs manually. That will be a permanent reduction for that hair. Which is your grandma's old school laser hair. But it's still relevant and it works quite uncomfortable still, but it's it works. Alright. So we've answered all of the month's most googled questions for our med spa. If you are in the Mesa area and any of this kind of seems like something you want more information about, all of our consultations are always complimentary. So it's definitely and we do virtual consults too. So if you're not in the area, we definitely can still help you. Reach out. This is something that is there is no one size fits all for all of these treatments. You cannot get a diagnosis on how to treat your skin watching a podcast or listening to somebody on the internet. You are a very specific person and you're gonna have your own needs. So let's chat and, we can definitely get you put on a treatment plan because this stuff can sound overwhelming and it's complex, and it changes. So what I would do on you when I first start, we're going to need to modify your treatments in the future. So you are consistently working with a provider for your best care. Yeah. So at our Mesa Med Spa, we have the best of the best equipment. We also have a salon attached to it, is great, kind of a one and done, get all your stuff thing done. But at the Mesa Med Spa, we do an extremely deep dive into your skin, deeper than you're going to get anywhere else, where we can look under your skin, over your skin, look at eight different parameters, the biometric skin analysis, and then that's where we can really build the treatment plan for you. Not just a, hey, I saw this on Instagram, can you do that for me? When that's not even going to be their goal. Yes. And we are perfectly fine telling you no. Yeah. You don't get to be the boss. So, yes, you might have seen a treatment that you feel like looks like the best treatment for you. But if we are telling you not to do it, take the advice. Don't just get something done because an influencer did it if it's not the right treatment for you. You want somebody who's looking at your skin, they understand the medications that you're on, they understand your schedule and what your downtime can be, they can understand your budgets and different products you're using at home. So everything is very customized in the med spa world. And what's really unique about our med spa and salon is that we do have multiple multiple providers who have specialties and we all kind of work together to give that client their best needs. So, you know, I'm an esthetician, a laser technician. I'm gonna be working with our injectors to see how we can put your treatment plan together so you're getting the best results from your c o two and your filler or your brow removal and I don't know. Yeah. Something else that we might be working on a treatment plan for you. We all work together, and we're really good at communicating with one another to make sure that the client is getting their best results. And we do that in house, so you don't have to go to one provider across town and be like, alright, well, I think this is what they did on me and hope for the best. Kind of do it all right there. Yeah. So to add one more, at our Mesa, Arizona location, specifically, we have people fly in from other states just to come get these treatments done. So at our Mesa, Arizona location, you're going to get the best of the best. You're gonna have that deep dive, you're gonna say, hey, we're gonna put a custom treatment plan together for you, and you're going to have more education and knowledge when you leave than you can imagine. So that's where everything needs to start, and it's going to be a very custom program. What I like to say to clients is I'm not here just for skincare, I'm here to care for your skin. So I want to be the person that's going to keep you young forever if you'll stick with us, do what we tell you to do, do the right treatments in this order, in this custom treatment plan, you will get the results that you're looking for. Thanks for spending time with us today. Make sure to check us out on social media, check out our website, and we can't wait to see you again for our next episode.